Directly addressing vending at Dreamtime

topic posted Wed, March 26, 2008 - 4:54 PM by  Eli
So, following Brocks posts, I feel a strong need to clarify the role of vending at Dreamtime as well as the interactions that he and I had. I would normally want to address this sort of thing with direct communication in private, which I attempted to do for hours with Brock, but I feel the need to address it here in public as he is referencing his experience and interactions with me in his posts.

I am actually amazed that he was willing to speak about the bad taste that he was left with after the event without directly addressing the issue the two of us spent a great deal of time on during the event.

The bad taste was mutual, but my experience was that Brock broke his word and the rules and undermined the event, and that the dreamtime staff were very clear upfront and before the event and very, perhaps too much so, kind and linient with him.

We have articulated a great deal about vending at Dreamtime in the past -

The aim, similar to burningman in this particular case, is to create a gift economy that supports authentic human interaction instead of the typical commercialization that has happened to most of our interactions in western culture.

If you read the vending page on the website, it reads and read for the 07 event:

Please Note: VENDING OR BARTERING (Trade Circles) WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY FORM outside of designated areas which have not received previous permission to be in the event. Violating this will lead to eviction from the event. For more about this, click here.

If you click here, it takes you to this link, and this is what you get:

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Sponsorships/Commerce/Gift Economy and
Maintaining the Integrity of the Vision

Dreamtime has expressed our common values: creativity, art, learning and education, ecological sustainability and our legacy to future generations, personal change and development, community and positive community building, and more.

Just to be clear, we want to promote authentic human interaction outside of money exchange.

In order to preserve the spirit of gifting, our community seeks to create social environments that support participation, transformation, creative expression, collaboration, networking, and community and de-emphasize commerce. We stand ready to protect our culture from exploitation. We resist the substitution of consumption for participatory experience or deeper, authentic interaction.

We are not advocating needless consumption, as this runs counter to the community and sustainability values that we hold. Our community is *not* inspired by events that focus on booths and vending, and are plastered with the soda symbols.

However, we live in a culture that includes commerce and the exchange of money (and many people are not about to move to a communal space and/or live in a cashless society or use alternative currencies - although these are interesting alternatives). We want the decommodification of our interactions, art and community. Yet if we are to fully express our inspirations through the event, in this culture, this includes supporting commerce that IS supporting art, healing, sustainability, activism, social change, and community. For we depend on commerce for all of the goods and services in our lives, including those at events like these.

Living in a world integrally tied to commerce we cannot ignore this aspect of our lives. We need to choose how we can approach it in a way that will support our common values. This means supporting commerce that IS supporting art, healing, sustainability, activism, social change, and community.

This is about walking the talk.

On a basic level outside of the event, we can choose to support those businesses that support the principals we share that inspire the event (basic consumer responsibility), and to educate others. This may mean choosing to purchase recycled lumber for an art project, buying organic foods, trying mate instead of coffee, investing in green companies, or choosing alternative fuels.

"Inside" the event, furthering these principals may include workshops on solar power, sustainable houses, community building, cohousing, healing and personal transformation,etc. And it may also tastefully include information about those groups, organizations and companies that support our common principals in a manner that is in line with the rest of our common values. And, there seems to be good reason to allow these companies to in turn support our values and support our community in a manner that does not detract from our experience, interactions, goals and principles.

What we ultimately need are criteria for supporting our common values, whether it comes to sponsorships or otherwise. The only sorts of businesses and organizations that we can invite to create a presence at the event include those with a common set of values, namely a commitment to social change, environmental stewardship, healthy living, personal development, sustainability, and community.

PLEASE NOTE THAT VENDING OR TRADING OUTSIDE OF DESIGNATED AREAS OF THE EVENT IS ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED, AND WILL WARRANT EVICTION FROM THE EVENT. RANGERS WILL BE CIRCULATING THE EVENT TO ENSURE THIS IS RESPECTED.

We strive to include conscious, socially and environmentally responsible commerce in a manner that in no way detracts from the authentic human exchange, culture, values and beauty of Dreamtime. Please help us protect the powerful and transformational experience of our participants. If you are interested in vending something at the event, please apply.

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Brock spoke with me before the event and asked if he could vend in the mate bar - the fundraiser for the event. I told him very clearly that he could not. He and Zoe also confirmed with me that they spoke and had clear communication that he was NOT allowed to vend in the mate bar.

Going against this clear communication and his word, Brock came, and started vending in the mate bar. Denying that he was vending but only ¨showing his jewewlry off¨at first, he then escalated to selling his own lemonade inside the mate bar tent - in direct competition with the Dreamtime fundraiser and mate bar. No other vendor is allowed to sell drinks at the event in competition to the mate bar, let alone sell them INSIDE the mate bar (or in front). Brock has big balls for trying this. Bigger for getting upset at us when we shut him down. We told him that normally we would kick him out of the event, but as long as he didnt come back in the mate bar and didnt do any more vending we would not kick him out. He showed up selling rocks in the mate bar again on monday and had the audacity to argue that he should be allowed to.

Let me come back to the part where he was told in no uncertain terms that he was not allowed to vend in the event by multiple staff members including me. He was given the option to vend inside the vending area but did not act on it. Let me come back to the part where he first lied that he was not vending, then sold both drinks and rocks and jewelry inside the mate bar. Let me repeat the part that the website clearly states that any pirate vendors will be removed from the event.

Let me state clearly here that Brocks actions directly undermined the financial stability of the event, used up precious staff time and resources to deal with, and completely broke his word and integrity.

Anything else is window dressing.

So he is pissed and in his words ¨has a bad taste in his mouth¨ because we enforced the clearly stated and directly communicated rules, stopping him from further undermining the financial stability of the event.

I would actually appreciate an apology, Brock.

And Ill offer a thanks - you taught me a lot about my boundaries, how to deal with people that break the rules, and the need for clearer organizational systems around rule enforcement and ejection.

Ill fully subscribe to the ¨love the person hate the actions¨approach on this one, but if this is how Brock consistently shows up, Im not interested in further interaction. I invite you, Brock, to start showing up with more integrity, more respect, and more understanding. I am in full support of you getting your needs met - but not at my direct expense!

This is a learning experience, this lifetime, for all of us. We are all called to show up and do the best we can in each moment. And to take responsibility for our actions instead of being victims. You are not a victim. You created the situation - the results were actually much gentler that you could have reasonably expected.

In a broader sense, Id like to be clear also that I am certainly open to feedback around vending - we allowed vending this year for the first time as a direct result of all of the requests for it after the 06 event. And we have certainly received feedback on both sides - some want a free for all, some want zip. Those of us that have taken on the large financial and energetic responsibilty for the organization are trying to strike a balance and watch out for the participants, upholding the values and the financial health of the organization.


So, once again in love and clarity:

Please Note: VENDING OR BARTERING (Trade Circles) WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY FORM outside of designated areas which have not received previous permission to be in the event. Violating this will lead to eviction from the event.

And with all due respect, we mean it.



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Eli
offline Eli
  • Re: Directly addressing vending at Dreamtime

    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 5:44 PM
    wow... i'll have to address this in stages. first of all i'm not "pissed" not at all. i apoligize for the sense you got from the bad taste remark. i guess i was really more trying to open a forum for people to vent some feeling i know they had about how they feel their gifts are acknowledged in our communications..i'm honestly trying to open a respectful dialogue as allies eli i know we butt heads about some things but brother i'm saying that we both may have something to offer the community if we find where our gifts can mesh.
    i know the community would agree that my presence for the most part has been a progressive and giving experience
    i even had a woman call the experience she watched of my commerce in the mate bar as " darshan"
    • Re: Directly addressing vending at Dreamtime

      Wed, March 26, 2008 - 6:29 PM
      o.k.... eli, you forgot to mention that i was comanaging the mate bar w' zoe.
      the lemons were overstock from another event that were going bad i was taking more than 50% loss and the rest donating to the bar. half was given away and all volunteers were styled .
      i was also a major part of the family crew that set up and managed one of our stages.
      i gave most of my festi time doing works between the bar and the stage and any number of other little details i am concientious too like plastic bagging the electrical connections in the vendors section from the rain
      i donated in a freeform way much much food and medicine ,time, open smiles and helping hands to many and all. my heart is definitely in the share and give spirit..
      brother all i've been trying to ssay this whole time is i want to give my little heart out and work my ass off. and i believe i have proven this over and over in the community
      i stayed around after and worked my butt off too. and out of my pocket made rolls and rolls of superfood treats for the breakdown crew. that along w' the watermelon juice and our love were deemed "best fluff ever" : )
      now the other facet of my life outside nutrition and event production is...art ,gems and jewelry creations. my fans and ambassadors just happen to be attending dreamtime and these festis are where i meet my patrons.. now i would have loved to have had a table set up n the vending area ,however my services having been specifically requested by both zoe and familymoonscrew..i thought it would be impossible for me to spread myself that thin. i had m any talks of placing the vending scene next to the bar so i could manage bothe scenes at once.
      ...i believe the fengshui of the vending alongside the bar makes more sense on several levels ,but that is a talk for another time...
      so i'm boppin round the soulmatebar our beautiful dream within a dream. and the peoples are like "hey brock wheres yer art?" "well i can't bring it out " "come on friend i really want to see your new art i won't see you til next year"
      well you get the drift.. i darn well busted out my art to show to these wonderful dreamtime supporters who specifically wanted to play w' my glittery precious gifts.
      i traded and gave some away and not until sunday afternoon when everything was flowing towards wrapping up did i bust out and my friends and i really started horsetrading, one small sale was made but really most of it was trading.
      which is all but "window dressing"
      but that small sale gave me food and gasmoney to get off site a couple weeks later after the rest of breakdown
      and i wound up w' alot more rotten lemons than necessary
  • Re: Directly addressing vending at Dreamtime

    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 6:50 PM
    eli! i love and respect you!
    i respect how much effort and heart you put into this amazing thing
    i'm sorry for coming off a little pissy.
    i'm really mostly neutral in this emotionally or politically...my main concerns in those posts were essentially threefold: voicing concerns of patrons and volunteers who can't or won't say things that are on the collectiveminds. establishing a dialogue of how to better traverse the gift economy versus commerce .and too show ,by my presence and my concerns, that i care alot about this production and everyone involved : )))
    my life is rich and fulfilling and dreamtime is a highlight. i have many rich and fulfilling options and i con sider dreamtime one i would travel too even though i;m on the west coast now.
    if i didn't care tons eli i certainly wouldn't be wasting my time w' these respectful and important reasonings
    • Re: Directly addressing vending at Dreamtime

      Fri, March 28, 2008 - 2:25 PM
      Thank you for your respectful replies and open intentions and comunication, Brock.

      I want to voice that I see the many gifts that you give, and offer my grattitude and appreciation. Thank you.

      I want you to get your needs met - be that food or gas money or whatever else. But again, not at my expense. I strive always for win-win situations. And I will continue to call you to be in integrity with your word\commitment and I will continue to step forward to respectfully enforce the boundaries that support and protect the DT organization, community and vision.

      I thank you for being part of Dreamtime, and caring enough to show up here online with respectful posts and wonderful intentions to address unspoken concerns, open a dialogue around the gift economy and show your care and support.

      I want to address the concerns that members of our community have, and encourage anyone with questions, concerns or feedback to contact me directly so that you can be heard and we can strive to create and interact in a way that serves us all.

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